as far as trying to talk the the fellow Z owners I might see. I also hate it that I'm not in mine usually when I see others. Around these neck of the woods though, most other Z owners aren't on tt.net nor as friendly and apt to carry on a conversation, so I usually depart slightly distraught. I am starting to get to the point where I won't even approach them and dare do I approach local 350 or 370 owners for they seem to not know the history of the Z or carry the passion. Dre